AIG Enhanced Fund Victims Action Group

Action Group for AIG Enhanced Fund Victims

Sharing information for the 1000s of victims of AIG's Enhanced fund. Aiming to give the fundholders a voice in what happens to their money.

Forum

Tony Marsden

UBS and AIG enhanced? 7 Replies

Started by Tony Marsden. Last reply by Tony Marsden Nov 28, 2011.

Stu

Barclays Wealth : Initial Legal Opinion 10 Replies

Started by Stu. Last reply by Robert Morfee Nov 24, 2011.

AM

HSBC win case 5 Replies

Started by AM. Last reply by R S[BW] Oct 21, 2011.

Mike

FSA investigating Coutts over AIG bond sales 1 Reply

Started by Mike. Last reply by Anthony Deal Sep 7, 2011.

R S[BW]

FOS DECISION DUE 2 Replies

Started by R S[BW]. Last reply by R S[BW] Sep 6, 2011.

deborah H Dennison

Enhanced Fund asset value recovery

Started by deborah H Dennison Apr 11, 2011.

Steve C (Lloyds TSB)

Should we cash in? 2 Replies

Started by Steve C (Lloyds TSB). Last reply by Johnboy Feb 16, 2011.

Stephen H

18 months of hell HELP!!!!!!! 4 Replies

Started by Stephen H. Last reply by Malcolm P Ward Dec 1, 2010.

mark franks

taxed on my loss ? 6 Replies

Started by mark franks. Last reply by Malcolm P Ward Dec 1, 2010.

R S[BW]

Refund of contribution 20 Replies

Started by R S[BW]. Last reply by Hobie Oct 22, 2010.

Members

  • Stuart Carson
  • Bob Smith
  • Danielle Levy
  • Dr Bal Sidhu
  • christopher bland
  • Edward Jonathan Watts
  • Richard Shore
  • vaughn ashdown
  • Robert Smith
  • Tony Marsden
  • Paul Godfrey
  • BM
  • lc
  • Dan Mixture
  • Alistair Paton
  • Richard Porcher SEYS LLEWELLYN
 

AIG Enhanced Fund Action Group - moving on

ALL OPINIONS EXPRESSED ON THIS WEBSITE ARE THOSE OF THE MEMBERS WHO CHOOSE TO CONTRIBUTE. THEY SHOULD NOT TO BE INTERPRETED AS OFFERING SPECIFIC “FINANCIAL, TAX or LEGAL ADVICE”. INVESTORS MUST OBTAIN THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.

THE LATEST PRF PRICE FROM ALICO - CLICK HERE

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE > 8th November < UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

 

Enfin.........

 

"The FSA has fined Coutts & Company £6.3m for a string of failings in connection with the sale of the AIG enhanced variable rate fund.

Coutts has also agreed to carry out a costly past business review, overseen by an independent third party, in relation to all customers who remained invested at 15 September 2008. It will compensate all those customers who have suffered a loss as a result of its failings."


Full ruling by the FSA is here: FSA fines Coutts on AIG miss-selling

 

This has been as we originally advised back in late 2008 - if the FSA can be persuaded of the mass incidence of miss-selling they will order the bank to review ALL cases and make recompense to all who have been miss-sold, without using FOS or the courts.

Irrespective of investment size. Irrespective of loss.Irrespective of foreseeability. Irrespective of anything done by AIG in running the fund.

 

1) Bingo

2) Roll on Barclays, UBS, Credit Suisse et al...........

 

 Next steps:

1) Ring your person at Coutts now - be a nuisance, demand compensation.

2) Move your money from Coutts now.

 

We don't know what will happen re compensation but it is highly likely to be to put you back into the position you would have been if you had just put money into an ordinary deposit account on day one, with interest payable to you on the lost interest.

 

Keep in touch....Hobie

 

 





If there are still unresolved distress cases caused by this then please contact us directly as we can provide 'support' and guidance.



OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES AND BANKERS....

The FSA rulebook says:

Rule 14.3.2 specifically stipulates that the risks must be provided

‘in sufficient detail to enable the client to take investment decisions on an informed basis’.

Barclays Bank compliance says:

" A product is not inappropriate or unsuitable simply because an investor does not understand it, particularly in circumstances where the investor has granted a discretionary mandate to the banker in connection with investment decisions. Put bluntly, there is no requirement that the investor should understand matters at all."


If you have anything in a similar vein, please let us have a copy. Investor confidentiality is maintained at all times, and we are registered with the Information Commissioner.





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We are always cleaning out the membership list. If you find you have been inadvertently 'banned', please email me. ADVISERS et al: please do not advertise your services in posts: email me your details and we can add them to the list in the reference library. Thanks.

Hobie






 

 This morning we have submitted a formal complaint to FOS......about FOS. The delay in response to the submitted complaints breaches their stated service standard aims, and we have raised this with Caroline Mitchell, a lead Ombudsman.



The race does appear to be on to see if we can get a court ruling out before a FOS final adjudication. We are told that there is a judge deliberating on a case as we write, but with no further info - if anyone can point us in the direction of the case then it would be useful for all.



There are still many queries about whether folk are better off taking the current surrender value and reinvesting elsewhere; the simple answer is maybe. Not everyone's case is the same, and the unit price in the PRF depends on whether or not your bank/broker is still being paid trail commission. As ever, seek advice if you are unsure of what you are doing.

Blog Posts

Hobie

FOS & FSA: the Wider Implications Process.

Posted by Hobie on July 6, 2009 at 5:53pm — 6 Comments

Hobie

Update on the PRF - if you prefer fact to comment

Posted by Hobie on July 26, 2009 at 10:06am

Hobie

The FSA's definition of cash

Posted by Hobie on July 2, 2009 at 3:30pm

Hobie

How to get the refund of your original subscription

Posted by Hobie on July 1, 2009 at 8:30am — 3 Comments

Hobie

How to get your client file

Posted by Hobie on July 1, 2009 at 8:24am

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Tony Marsden replied to Tony Marsden's discussion 'UBS and AIG enhanced?'
So just a way to access the greatly reduced value of the investment - at the clients risk - rather than compensation to the client for losses. I guess this means that for now at least UBS is denying all responsibility. 
Nov 28, 2011
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Hobie replied to Tony Marsden's discussion 'UBS and AIG enhanced?'
No. That would be a non-recourse loan.   The arrangements generally in place are for a loan eaul to the surrender value of the bond, woth or without interest depending on how sweet the bank wishes to keep the investor. The bond may or may not…
Nov 28, 2011
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What are you up to?
Status posted by M&M Brown Nov 24, 2011
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Robert Morfee replied to Stu's discussion 'Barclays Wealth : Initial Legal Opinion'
Hobie Thanks for the mention. We certainly haven't disppeared into the ether! We are still here, working on AIG cases (amongst others) and would be delighted to help. Robert.
Nov 24, 2011
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I am now leaving the group as I now have no further business with UBS and wish everyone else well in their fight to seek redress.
Status posted by colin black Nov 22, 2011
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Tony Marsden replied to Tony Marsden's discussion 'UBS and AIG enhanced?'
Have I got this right  - a loan against the amount originally invested, secured against and repayable only from the post disaster lower value, with no right to claim against any other asset to make up any shortfall and with…
Nov 17, 2011
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Hobie replied to Tony Marsden's discussion 'UBS and AIG enhanced?'
Back to back is imply a loan equal to and secured on the investment.   To the best of our knowledge Barclays & Coutts were the largest - Barclays had their back office systems linked to AIG to automate the cash transfers. I believe UBS were…
Nov 17, 2011
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Mitch replied to Tony Marsden's discussion 'UBS and AIG enhanced?'
  If the private banks are found wanting as with Coutts, would any compensation not cover interest paid on any loan as well as interest lost from deposit ? If cash is locked in the PRF and we had to borrow against it .............??   Just…
Nov 15, 2011
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Tony Marsden replied to Tony Marsden's discussion 'UBS and AIG enhanced?'
Thanks for getting in touch. I'm not really sure what you mean by the back-to-back loan arrangement, in this context. We introduced our client to UBS WM, we have no connection with SGH. I will have to check the date of the investment but I…
Nov 15, 2011
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Hobie replied to Tony Marsden's discussion 'UBS and AIG enhanced?'
Tony,   UBS have settled with several investors by way of a back to back loan arrangement.   It does, however, depend on when the investment was made, and whether or not it was via Scott Goodman Harris.   Hobie
Nov 15, 2011
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Hobie replied to Stu's discussion 'Barclays Wealth : Initial Legal Opinion'
  I recommend you email Robert Morfee at Clarke Wilmott, as I believe he is up to speed with the Barclays group. They appear to have disappeared into the ether and we have heard nothing from them for some time.   Any updates from them…
Nov 15, 2011
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Hobie replied to Dr Bal Sidhu's discussion 'TAX ON MY LOSS?'
  Mr Sidhu, I'd advise you seek professional advice on this matter rather than asking on an open internet forum. Your first port of call is to go back to Coutts, they will address your complaint for you.
Nov 15, 2011
 
 
 

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